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Stephen L. West

421 neighbors want a multi-purpose, multi-field youth and amateur sports complex in Mesa.


Such a site will create an important destination for Mesa, generating interest not only throughout the greater Phoenix area but throughout the entire southwest and beyond.  Thousands will come into Mesa, generating spending that will help local businesses and bed tax and sales tax that will help the City.  It will also provide a sorely needed venue for youth and amateur sports events.   I have attached an aerial view and rendering of the project.

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Jarred Tyler Hamm
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Joni
Marc Garcia
Rich Adams
Michael Maruca, CHA
Emily Brozewicz
Ginger Spice
Kelley Chavez Haenel
Steve Jorgensen
Alissa Kissling
Tami Roden-Eggimann
Sarah Futrell
Kristin  Liljenquist
Rosie Clay
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Stephen L. West

Click this link for a great view of the proposed project area.

vimeo.com/238674654

This new video that gives a bird's eye view of the proposed complex. The actual field house will not be as sophisticated in style as the architect's rendering here but the dimensions will be roughly the same. This is a project that will create a lasting destination for the City of Mesa, one which will attract regional interest and provide abundant local access. And from an economic standpoint, interest in the project will generate new revenue streams for the City of Mesa in the form of sales and bed taxes.

Sports Complex Fly Around Video

This is "Sports Complex Fly Around Video" by Steve on Vimeo, the home for high quality videos and the people who love them.

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Posted Oct 17, 2017
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Brian Jones (B Jones)

this sounds like a waste of money, only the rich people could use it

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Posted Oct 17, 2017
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Keith T

Where exactly will this be located? Renderings of the project give pretty much no details on location and peoples' posts are about youth sports in general, but not much meat on the proposed project.

We have two soccer facilities already in the Red Mountain area: Red Mountain Soccer Complex and Quail Run. Will one of these be expanded to house this? Closed? Replaced?

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Posted Sep 14, 2017
Rich Adams
Rich Adams
Oct 11, 2017

Regarding private funding:

1) Due to the BLM deed restrictions for this parcel of land, we cannot monetize it. Meaning we can’t build hotels, restaurants or retail on site. It can only be used for recreational purposes like this sports complex. And there is no other available parcel of city-owned land that could accommodate this project. And naturally, we want to use city-owned land and not have to purchase other land. Keeps costs down.

2) The real money from a project like this comes from visitor spending all around the City. The reason why municipalities build these projects is because they are the primary beneficiary. The private sector can’t make enough money purely from facility rentals and concessions. And of course, they don’t get to collect tax revenues from hotel stays, restaurant and retail purchases. Furthermore, if the private sector tried to make a run at profitability on a project like this they’d have to charge outrageous fees and the result would be that the average Mesa citizen wouldn’t be able to access the complex. It would be too expensive.

3) What we can do, however, is find tenants of the facility who would pay regular rent. This would create a public-private partnership and offset costs even further. We’re working on that now.

4) Also, you will see the private sector building new hotels, restaurants and retail outlets. Not only will this enhance resident quality of life but adds even more jobs and tax revenue to the City’s general fund both during construction phase and ongoing operations.

Posted by Rich Adams on Oct 11, 2017
Rich Adams
Rich Adams
Oct 11, 2017

Finally, I would suggest to you that there’s a reason why so many areas of Mesa are blighted and unattractive. It’s a result of years of inaction and lack of leadership and vision. Many other Valley cities have made smart investments like this one would be and those cities benefit every day. Phoenix, for example, doesn’t get light rail, a downtown ASU campus, and several new hotels were it not first for their investment in the Phoenix Convention Center. They knew they needed to first establish a mousetrap and all the other investments would later come. And that’s exactly what happened there! You may want to consider this proposed Sports Complex as Mesa’s convention center because it will bring the people, spending and private investment in very much the same manner. That's the big picture!

It makes sense sometimes for even government to spend a little money to make money on the backend. It’s Finance 101. And I say that as a fiscal conservative.

Posted by Rich Adams on Oct 11, 2017
Keith T
Keith T
Oct 19, 2017

Rich, I appreciate the time you take to explain and support your answers. I am with you on the Mesa city government trying to make a quality zoning and business decision to create a 'mousetrap' for NE Mesa. My point was more to the effect of the parameters set up for future supporting businesses around the mousetrap.

I've already explained in my prior post why Main Street is a such logical spot for such supporting businesses. The City Council could target that area and say that is where supporting businesses should go and make it attractive for a new hotel/restaurant/business to set up shop in that area. Forward thinking like this helps undo decades of poor or nonexistent zoning decisions.

However, if Mesa continues to allow investors to change preexisting zoning on areas that probably shouldn't be zoned for such commercial development, well then that just perpetuates poor city planning. And mousetrap or not, that hurts Mesa in the long term. Let's use this project to create a destination AND help improve the sections of the city that could really use it. Win/win all around...

Posted by Keith T on Oct 19, 2017
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Kelley Chavez Haenel

www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ATwFk...

Just take a look at this Mesa!

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Posted Sep 5, 2017
Doug Stevens
Doug Stevens
Oct 18, 2017

This is more what I had in mind. We have tons of soccer fields in Mesa... Very little Adult Softball, now that Riverview has been turned into a parking lot/soccer fields.

Posted by Doug Stevens on Oct 18, 2017
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Kelley Chavez Haenel

A banquet facility that could hold large crowds......I'm thinking my first fundraiser gala?! I know so may people that could benefit from a space like this!

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Posted Aug 30, 2017
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Kelley Chavez Haenel

Here’s another exciting look at what’s possible at this Multi-Purpose Sports Complex.......volleyball, anyone!?

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Kelley Chavez Haenel

Wow, even I hadn’t thought of how awesome this would be as a site for premier wrestling events!

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Posted Aug 30, 2017
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Kelley Chavez Haenel

Can you imagine how many companies, schools, and nonprofits can hold functions here! As a founder of a non profit myself this would be huge for Mesa!

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Posted Aug 30, 2017
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Sharon

I would refer anyone who thinks this is a benefit to the general public to refer to Time magazine's article of Aug. 24. This is what people in this thread are wanting to fund when they say they support kids sports .
time.com/4913687/how-kids-spor...

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How Kids’ Sports Became a $15 Billion Industry

‘For better or worse, youth sports is being privatized’

time.com/4913687/how-kids-spor...

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Posted Aug 30, 2017
Katie Hatcher McDonald
Katie Hatcher McDonald
Aug 30, 2017

I fully agree with Ben and Michelle. The need is great. This article only highlights the overly passionate parents that make team sports a way of life. Items that foster activities, especially during the summer are very few. I'm sick and tired of having to spend a pile of money to get them out of the house when it's hot. Which is a majority of the year. This also serves a bigger purpose than just kids sports. I think we've all noticed the rise in residency for the East Valley in the past several years, so why not put in a facility that many can use just like Red Mountain Multi-generational Center but on a grander scale.

Posted by Katie Hatcher McDonald on Aug 30, 2017
Neris Valencia
Neris Valencia
Aug 30, 2017

If parents want to spend the kind of money is up to them, but my oldest son is been playing soccer since he was 5, now he is 12
and I don't regret nothing what we spend, because he love the sport also always have a good grades by club request and they don't have time to be in the couch thinking garbage, I can tell you my kids work hard enough to get scholarships for college, I spend around $5,000 per kid at year but I see that, as a investment in my kids future, I don't want to see my kids in the street with bad influence or sitting in couch the all day doing nothing.. am sorry but I think your coment is out of context, besides you don't take it in cosideration the amount of money the city of Mesa can get, bringing more visitors from other states to participate in tournaments.

Posted by Neris Valencia on Aug 30, 2017
Sharon
Sharon
Oct 11, 2017

I think turning small children into professional athletes is a losing proposition. I have relatives who spent more than $5K per year and indeed their kids were successful right up until they got so sick of sports they ended up quitting college. They actually won scholarships, but their parents could easily have sent them to college for the amount they spent. I don't think I'm out of context. Go ahead and enjoy. But don't expect taxpayers to pay for something just because you're praying for a pro contract.

Posted by Sharon on Oct 11, 2017
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City of Mesa, AZ

We've gotten even more great ideas related to this one that we've combined them to help them gain even more steam! All of the comments and "Me too" votes have been transferred over from the following ideas:

David A. Wier
We want a Multi-purpose, multi-field,youth and ametuer sports complex (soccer fields) in Mesa.

Kelley Chavez Haenel
We want a multi-purpose, multi-field youth and amateur sports complex, both indoor and outdoor space in Mesa.

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Posted Aug 10, 2017
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