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Tim Boyle

209 neighbors want Site 17 (University & Mesa Drive) to be AMAZING in Mesa.

Disney's Steamboat Lagoon in Downtown Mesa? Right along University between the Convention Center and Mesa Drive?

Site 17 sits vacant, waiting decades to become AMAZING. Lets generate creative, out of the box ideas for it, don't just fill it with normal things.

Mesa proved we can knock it out of the park at Riverview.

Site 17 - Why not AMAZING?

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City of Mesa, AZ

Thank you for your idea! The City Council and leadership agree that the 25 acres on the southwest corner of University and Mesa Drives needs to be amazing! To that end, the Council directed City staff to conduct public engagement to help guide future development. The outreach was conducted June-August 2016 and consisted of an online survey and in-person neighborhood meetings. We received nearly 2,000 responses to this outreach effort! The results of the outreach were presented to City Council in November 2016 (video of Council presentation: mesa11.com/vod/?show=1466&Mode...) and included City Council direction to prepare options for next steps to develop the vision and a master plan that are consistent with the following guiding principles:

Future development of University and Mesa drives:
- Provides a significant market-rate residential component (for sale and rental)
- Develops in an urban form
- Is sensitive to the Wilbur Historic District
- Provides a variety of building types and uses
- Provides high-quality design and construction
- Activates and supports the downtown core
- Provides a connected pedestrian environment
- Provides neighborhood supporting non-residential uses that complement downtown core

Starting later this year, the City will be hiring an urban design consultant to prepare conceptual master plan(s) and market feasibility analyses that will become the basis for developing the property. Development of the conceptual master plans will be an open and public process, in which we encourage all interested people to participate. Updates on the conceptual master planning process and how you can continue to participate will be posted on the Downtown Transformation webpage: www.mesaaz.gov/about-us/city-p....

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Posted Jul 24, 2017
W. Dea Montague
W. Dea Montague
Jul 25, 2017

I agree with Tim Boyle's comments above. Something amazing is warranted and the City Council has that opportunity.

• In November, when Jeff McVay reported the results of the Community Meetings, some of the Council Members were perceptive to the weaknesses of the process: e.g., a process that did not give "open choice"; rather the questions were in predetermined boxes such as "Which style of multi-housing complex design do you prefer?" The facilitator did not listen when the citizens present repeatedly said that they did not want any style of high-rise multi-family housing. In fact, at the Community Meeting where citizens were invited to give their input, the facilitator openly rebuked one citizen during her comments. She expressed her opinion that more high-rise apartments would not bring economic development and revitalization to the area any more than the rebuilding of Escobedo had done. The facilitator said "I do not accept your comments!" This revealed his predisposition to a predetermined result, a result that the great majority of citizens participating did not agree with!

• I was one of the minority voters that supported ASU coming to Mesa. I still believe the presence of ASU in this area could have a profound impact. Their presence in downtown Phoenix has been exceptional.

Posted by W. Dea Montague on Jul 25, 2017
Melissa McCook Pimentel

Dear City of Mesa,
I agree with Tim and Dea. I was at the meeting and I also voted but we werent given the opportunity to vote on what we really wanted. There was no open discussion of anything more than letting us vote on what types of multi family housing combinations to put in. I offer this same type of choice to my kids when I want them to eat their vegetables. They get to "choose" if they want peas or carrots. They really don't have a choice to whether they get to eat vegetables or not. They just get to choose which type. It feels like city of mesa was being the parent and telling us we "get" to choose which type of multi family housing we want. But the reality is we don't want that for site 17. We want something amazing in that location, like the lagoon.

Posted by Melissa McCook Pimentel on Jul 25, 2017
Derek Brosemann
Derek Brosemann
Jul 25, 2017

Thank you Tim for spearheading this revolt. The process the city implemented of "faux choice" regarding site 17 was brilliant in steering a narrative the city wanted all along. The city can say we were given a choice, but those choices were all predetermined. Do you want this type of multi-family housing sprinkled with commercial or this type? As grateful as I was that we got an audience, one cannot help be feel condescended to (bad grammer I know). Those in the city reading this should understand that we want and expect more for that location. I am certain that we will not settle for mediocrity in this case and the city employees should take note at the energy many of us are putting into this message!

Posted by Derek Brosemann on Jul 25, 2017
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MAKE MESA GREAT AGAIN! 😊

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Posted Jul 13, 2017
W. Dea Montague
W. Dea Montague
Jul 19, 2017

Tim, Your leadership in thinking progressively is a positive thing for Mesa. Not like some of those that think that "amazing" comes in the form of high-rise subsidized apartments. We can do better than more of the same and your ideas are worthy of support!

Posted by W. Dea Montague on Jul 19, 2017
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Erika Barry

Come on friends and family. Vote for Site 17 on Mesa Dr and University. Even if you don't live in Mesa, this could be a major destination for all. Vote for Site 17!!'nn

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Posted Jul 13, 2017
PJM
PJM
Jul 18, 2017

This site needs to be a destination site, a mixed use development (high density residential with commercial amenities).

Posted by PJM on Jul 18, 2017
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Suzy

Mesa voters had a chance for a small tax increase to make the ASU satellite campus happen on Main in downtown...that would have then cleaned up all adjacent areas...where there are ASU students, there would be restaurants, recreation facilities, newer and upgraded front facing on existing restaurants, etc...but instead, voters voted it down and the mayor and others in the city have to regroup and try to determine how it can be paid for, which will tack on years to making it happen.

People voted Mayor Giles in for a reason - to take Mesa to the next level and let it live up to its potential, but then people thwart the efforts. Do people not see how much their home values would go up, and their taxes would be Helped in the long run if Mesa could start competing with Scottsdale and Tempe for the entertainment dollars??!!

Voters in Mesa are far too resistant to change. They still want to have it be a sleepy little town, but it's a HUGE city with industry wanting to increasingly move here. More companies would want to, if there were more things to do in downtown, and surrounding Mesa areas...

www.azcentral.com/story/news/l...

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Posted Jul 12, 2017
Kyle Thornton
Kyle Thornton
Jul 12, 2017

Suzy, nice point. Like you I support an ASU partnership in downtown Mesa. Site 17 + ASU would be outstanding. I suggest we keep raising the discussion with the council, and ask for ballot measures to get a deal done.

Posted by Kyle Thornton on Jul 12, 2017
Rebeca Potter Morello
Rebeca Potter Morello
Jul 13, 2017

I agree the change is just what downtown mesa needs to take the area to the next level.

Posted by Rebeca Potter Morello on Jul 13, 2017
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Keith

This concept would be awesome. Mesa needs more event or experience making sites throughout the city. Bringing in this type of development could be the beginning of something amazing for the entire downtown.

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Posted Jul 11, 2017
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Alexander Oberhansly

Yes Mesa does not have one area that has fancy or high-end dining, which is kind of sad considering how big the city is, it would be great to go somewhere that is more lively and energetic, as well as modern

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Posted Jul 10, 2017
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Heather

Bring on the water!!! We need a destination...an oasis in the desert...a public amenity that will enhance the downtown...bring vitality...make people want to live, work, and play here in the downtown. The city demolished a neighborhood with a lot of history in order to clear this space, the only proper and ethical use of this property is an "amazing" public amenity. A 21st century reinvention of Rendezvous Park...a lagoon, a sports complex with ball fields and sand volleyball courts, an indoor recreation space that is climate controlled with a roof that opens and closes...

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Posted Jul 6, 2017
Alexander Oberhansly
Alexander Oberhansly
Jul 10, 2017

Yes climate control super important. And if we could have solar panels that would be great to go green as much as we can

Posted by Alexander Oberhansly on Jul 10, 2017
LeeAnn Prescott
LeeAnn Prescott
Jul 12, 2017

This is great! I would hope that by adding this into the area that McDonald's and other businesses in the area would upgrade their front end.

Posted by LeeAnn Prescott on Jul 12, 2017
Lori Jo Smith
Lori Jo Smith
Jul 14, 2017

Just don't build a cement pond like at Riverview Park. We need water amenities surrounded by land with trees and bushes. Places to fish, where baby ducks can get in and out of the water easily. I sometimes wonder what happened to the geese and ducks that use to live at Riverview Park. It's very relaxing to watch the animals.

Posted by Lori Jo Smith on Jul 14, 2017
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