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allison

96 neighbors want 24 hour BART in Oakland.

allison

"Right now there's a gap of about four hours between when the last trains of the day leave, usually around midnight, and when the first trains of the day start up, around 4 a.m. on weekdays. (Those are end-of-the-line times; last-train times from individual stations may be later. For example, the latest SFO to Pittsburg/Bay Point train on a Saturday night leaves Embarcadero Station at 25 minutes past midnight, actually Sunday morning. Check the schedule for details.)

That short window of time without service is used for essential nightly track maintenance.  Unlike some public transit systems with multiple sets of tracks on the same routes, BART doesn't have the duplication that would allow us to run trains on one set while performing maintenance on another. Third-rail power has to be shut down for maintenance crews to be able to operate safely and do the work that keeps the system safe and reliable. And the trains can’t run when the power is down.

A little history: BART was never intended to be a 24-hour system. When cost projections were initially developed, the residents of the region who voted to approve BART supported a system that would have limited hours of operation. (In its early days, BART was even closed on weekends.) You can read more about BART's history in the History and Facts section of our website. BART does extend service for certain special occasions, such as New Year's Eve celebrations and some sporting events, when large late-night crowds are expected." 

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Dan

Progress from the SF County Transportation Authority:

"On Friday, we announced a broad late-night bus service increase by all of our major bus operators, including Muni, AC Transit, Golden Gate Transit and SamTrans. This next step keeps our forward momentum going. Of course, the holy grail of late night transportation is 24-hour BART service. We will get there once we build a much-needed second transbay tube.

This second tube will allow BART to run 24 hours, in addition to helping us create a true regional rail network by connecting Caltrain to the Capitol Corridor and ultimately getting high speed rail over to the East Bay. Yet, for now, we are making progress one step at a time. We will continue to transform our transportation systems to reflect the reality of our residents."

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Matching late-night transportation with our late-night reality

San Francisco and the Bay Area run 24 hours a day. We are not a 9-to-5 community. We have a robust nighttime economy — in San Francisco, contributing more than …

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Posted Aug 8, 2016
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Nicholas Josefowitz

Hi neighbors, I'm Nick. I'm running for BART Board District 8 (Sunset, Richmond, Marina, North Beach, Telegraph Hill). I support more late night trains running from SF to Oakland. Given that the BART does not run after 12:15am, workers on second shifts do not have the same transit access as daytime workers. We should also support riders who travel to SF and Oakland for late night entertainment, especially on weekends. This keeps our roads safe and helps support the restaurants, bars, and clubs that make our cities so culturally vibrant.

You can share ideas with me on Neighborland here - neighborland.com/getsfmoving. Let's get the Bay Area moving!

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Posted Aug 27, 2014
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Dan

Given that BART was able to run 24 hrs while Caltrans opened up the new west span of the Bay Bridge in September, that means it is technically possible. It seems like running it on Friday and Saturday nights makes sense.

Source: sfist.com/2013/08/29/bart_expl...

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BART Explains Why It Doesn't Offer 24-Hour Service

On their Labor Day Weekend Bay Bridge Closure page, BART explains why they don't offer 24-hour service:

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Posted Oct 29, 2013
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khoLi.

This won't help speed up the process of 24 hour BART, but folks who care about safe reliable Oakland transportation might be interested in helping to fund this project: www.gofundme.com/krysfree -- on demand carpooling could become a reliable form of transport for not much more than the cost of BART. And still remain effective during strikes.

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Posted Oct 12, 2013
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Earl

I'd like to know the current numbers for riders on the bart between 4AM and 6AM on Saturday and Sunday.

Once they have a baseline, if they do a month trial where they extend bart service until 2:30AM on Fridays and Saturdays, we'd have reliable metrics for which should be supported.

My belief is that ridership and overall cashflow would greatly increase if the time window that BART is closed on Fridays and Saturdays was shifted ahead 2 hours.

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Posted Jul 3, 2013
Tom K.
Tom K.
Jul 3, 2013

It's a great point. Perhaps the economic case needs to be made for BART to act.

Posted by Tom K. on Jul 3, 2013
Tom K.
Tom K.
Jul 26, 2013

One thing I also wonder after talking about this issue with friend in South Berkeley is if BART employees strongly discourage the hours expansion from happening simply because extending the hours later will likely make for more unpleasant (unsafe?) and challenging working conditions.

Posted by Tom K. on Jul 26, 2013
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Tom K.

"Right now there's a gap of about four hours between when the last trains of the day leave, usually around midnight, and when the first trains of the day start up, around 4 a.m. on weekdays.

That short window of time without service is used for essential nightly track maintenance. Unlike some public transit systems with multiple sets of tracks on the same routes, BART doesn't have the duplication that would allow us to run trains on one set while performing maintenance on another. Third-rail power has to be shut down for maintenance crews to be able to operate safely and do the work that keeps the system safe and reliable. And the trains can’t run when the power is down."

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Posted Jun 20, 2013
allison
allison
Jun 20, 2013

Even if it was single track, once an hour, it would be a vast improvement.

Posted by allison on Jun 20, 2013
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Alisha "the Explorer" Forrester Scott

We need to be concerned about our hearing. BART is negligent, and I wonder how many rider-patrons have suffered hearing impairment or loss? Please consider this petition, in addition to your 24 Hour BART wishes... neighborland.com/ideas/oak-bar...

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Support BART to provide ear plugs or better for paying patrons to prevent inevitable hearing loss in Oakland

"Can you hear me?!" BART should provide ear plugs to patron riders of all ages, in order to prevent untimely hearing loss. Unreasonably loud BART train cars inevitably cause patron hearing loss, as they scrape along bent tracks. Patrons are currently paying a minimum of $1.75 USD per one-way trip. BART fare should include one (1) pair of ear...

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Posted Oct 4, 2012
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Chris Palmatier

related (particularly in light of the last comment from @mark): neighborland.com/ideas/sf-bart...

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Support BART to run later and more often on weekend nights in San Francisco

What would it take to convince BART to run more often and later on the weekends?

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Posted Oct 3, 2012
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mark hurty

If not 24 hours, how about adding a couple of hours at either end of the current schedule?

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Posted Aug 16, 2012
Tom K.
Tom K.
Jun 17, 2013

I think this makes sense. Perhaps even doing a trial of adding a few hours.

Posted by Tom K. on Jun 17, 2013
Andy
Andy
Aug 25, 2013

Conducting a trial is a brilliant idea, Tom. That would help them determine if it's feasible to make their hours of operation (if not 24 hours) longer.

Posted by Andy on Aug 25, 2013
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