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Jeff Kirschner

39 neighbors want BART to have a dedicated bike car with no seats, no time restrictions, and available to all in San Francisco.

Jeff Kirschner
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Bridget
Luke Bornheimer
Wilco
Adriana
Jonathan Yankovich
A. L. Pisani
Meli
Jeremy Shaw
alex choi
Stuart Collins
Justin Simonsen
Ellen Keith
Bruce Wolfe
dustystax
Tracy
Tyler

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Tom K.

Not quite a full bike-specific car, but in case everyone hadn't heard you'll be able to take your bike on BART any time starting July 1 until December 1.

"Today’s BART decision is a momentous occasion. For years people on both sides of the Bay have had to contort their lives simply because they needed to take a bike on BART but couldn’t during commute times. We commend BART for taking the smart steps toward opening up regional travel by bike,' says Leah Shahum, Executive Director of the San Francisco Bicycle Coalition, which has worked alongside BART and the East Bay Bicycle Coalition for years to increase access for bicycles on BART."

www.sfbike.org/main/bart-remov...

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Tom K.
Tom K.
Apr 21, 2015
Tom K. proposed this event for Get SF Moving .

Station Modernization In-Station Open House
Thursday, April 23, 2015, 4:00pm - 7:00pm
Civic Center BART Station

From BART:

"As part of BART’s Station Modernization Program, we are developing a comprehensive plan to modernize the Civic Center Station and improve the station entrances along Market Street in San Francisco.

The goal is to develop a list of projects to improve station function, safety, security, capacity, access, appearance, and overall customer experience.

The goal of BART’s station modernization project is to develop a vision to upgrade and improve the station. This means working with the public to reflect the energy of the surrounding community and enhance the station’s existing strengths, streamline access to the station, and promote a safe and comfortable customer experience.

Market Street Station Entrances

Market Street station entrance improvement is BART’s latest effort to increase escalator reliability and provide a more welcoming appearance to our stations in the form of a covered structure.

Based on the success of the 19th street station canopy in Oakland, BART has been productively working with the City of San Francisco’s Better Market Street project to devise an aesthetically pleasing structural design.

The canopy will be designed with place-making and environmental friendliness in mind, with two sides partially enclosed with glass and sweeping horizontal elements.

While the structural design has been tentatively agreed to, art and design elements will be decided based on public input from the station improvement open house events described above.

As with the Oakland canopy, the Market Street canopies will provide escalators with weather protection and enhanced security, and will allow employees and patrons to enjoy a greater degree of safety. Additionally, real-time train arrival information will be displayed on screens at street level so customers know how soon their train is arriving before entering the station.

The project is slated for completion by the end of 2017, and is currently in the early design phase."

Who Went?

Dan
Tom K.
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Tom K.

IF YOU GO
What: Public viewing of half-car wooden mock-up of new BART train
When: 2 to 7 p.m. Tuesday-Friday
Where: Concourse of
MacArthur station in Oakland

FUTURE BART FLEET
How future BART cars will differ from the current model:
More handholds for shorter and mobility-impaired passengers
Ceiling over the middle aisles about 4 inches higher
Commuter sections at the ends of the train cars and open seating areas near the doors
Seats allow for roughly 10 percent more standing room in each train car
Vinyl seats for easier cleaning
Seats mounted higher off the floor
Bike racks
Passenger information systems
Three doors, which will use a technology that makes for a quieter ride, instead of two

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Jeff Kirschner

Thanks for the report Meli.
It appears as if there have been considerations around dedicated spaces, folding seats, and better signage.

To your point about public support, I've sent BART an email, offering them to join our conversation on Neighborland (I sent them a direct link). Perhaps they can field questions, offer rationale to their decisions, and inform us of future plans.

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Dan

Thanks Meli. What’s the process for making a recommendation to BART? Do they have a monthly meeting for straphanger input?

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Meli

Hi Jeff, it would be great to have a designated car to accommodate bikes during rush hour.
The BART Bicycle Plan reports that in focus groups, a dedicated bike car like those Caltrain offers, was a very popular idea. Unfortunately, it isn't part of BART's big train car upgrade. From the New Train Car Project FAQ on BARTs Website:
"Q: Is it viable to have dedicated bike cars in set locations on BART trains?
A: No, BART cars are continuously coupled and uncoupled in between runs throughout the day  Therefore, it is not possible to keep a “bike car” in a predictable position on a train…"

That said, if there's public support, we could make progress. Do dedicated bike cars exist in other cities? I googled it but can't find much. It'd be cool if just culturally, Bay Area residents decided that the last car was always the bike car.

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Jeff Kirschner

Hey A.L.,
I hear you. There's definitely not a lot of time to get on/off. That said, it's already happening. People are managing to bring their bikes on BART amidst a sea of non-bikers. I'd argue that by "segregating" those of us on bikes, the process may in fact be faster.

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A. L. Pisani

The issue with this though is that the amount of seconds BART doors are open is too short!

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